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October 2011 Newsletter

Some Highlights this month

Radio Project Update

Dear Pastor Joel Osteen, Shame on you!

Mitt Romney: Christian or Cultist?

Boy Scouts Under attack Again
Your emails
Harold Camping Strikes out..again

A Note From Ed

Dear friends,

I am sitting at my desk, looking at all the radio equipment that has been installed for me to use to do my new radio program. It sure is confusing. I guess I will learn to push all the buttons and dials and talk into this giant mike at the same time.

It is going to take some practice.By next week, I will be putting together my first weekly, one hour program. I will let you know all the details as soon as it is a "GO." Pray for me. I am 30 years behind the technology. Nothing resembles the equipment my Associate Director, the late Jim Witham and I used when we did five years of daily radio throughout the Zion Curtain Country....way back then...

Our very special thanks to all of you who participated in the raising of the funds needed. You came through in a big way and are full partners with us in this new mission outreach that will touch hundreds of thousands of people.

Several major events have popped up this last week. One was a major public pronouncement By Joel Osteen, pastor of the 40,000 member Lakewood Church of Houston Texas. Pastor Osteen firmly declared to the world that Mormonism is Christian. Check out my open letter to this man.

I have been on a number national radio programs over the last few weeks and we have been buried I responses. That's a good thing. After one program, we had almost 700 emails within the hour. I spent long hours in responding. In the last month, this email newsletter list has grown by over 2,500 new names.

We prayerfully ask you to send in a gift to the ministry today. We are still about $1,000 short of our Radio project goal and need this within the next week to kick off our program with 'gusto.'

We are also running behind in our normal monthly expenses. Well. To be more accurate, the expenses are there. Just not the money to meet them all. Please, even small gifts from many make a huge difference.

Your brother in Christ,

Ed Decker

Your emails

I love your emails.

I take them seriously. I read them all.
I answer most of them personally.

Sometimes I forward them to someone with a special expertise. If you email me, expect that you will receive an answer. Sometimes that may take a while when I have hundreds of new emails in my inbox when I open my email account. Please be patient.

However, I will not open any emails that do not have a title, or if there is no content except a web address or if it contains nothing but a file or the file and one of many statements like: Open this special file!

We are continually spammed and by people who do not like our message. If they are not spamming us, they are trying to hack our website. We have so many security walls in place now that it takes me 15 minutes to log in and it's my site.

That brings up another issue. We no longer can be reached by phone. It is email or letter only now.

Mormon bloggers have taken great delight in publishing our office numbers and inviting all their friends to call in and harass us. We don't have time for those kinds of games. Enough said.

Dear Pastor Joel Osteen,
Shame on You!

This is an open letter to Joel Osteen after he announced to the world this week that the Mormon Church is Christian and Mitt Romney is a born again Christian. The LDS Church is already using it as evidence of its legitimate place in the true Christian body.

After all, one blogger said, it must be true. This is from the mouth of the Christian pastor of America's largest church. Please pass it on to your lists, use it in any way you feel necessary to stop this nonsense.

Read It Here

Mitt Romney: Christian or Cultist?

Among the key topics I have been discussing on radio this last month has been the general acceptance by the Christian, conservative 'right' that even if Mormonism is a 'bit off center', Mitt Romney is still a born again Christian.

They point to his use of words, like Jesus, my salvation, et al and never look past the words to see that his definitions of these words are far removed from the Christian definitions. I have put together a detailed document that deals directly with this issue. Again, download it and send it ou to your lists.

Read It here

Boy Scouts Under attack Again

First it was the Mormons, who basically took over the Boy Scouts when they made it part of their Aaronic [youth] priesthood program and every LDS Ward had its own troop.

Then the homosexual invasion came along and all but destroyed it.

After that, the atheists took their turn at attacking and trying to dismantle its core belief in God and now watch out.

Here come the Muslim invaders and the radical, anti-Christian, anti-American Muslim Brotherhood.

Boy Scouts infiltrated by Muslim Brotherhood?

October 8, 2011 Patriot Update website

The Boy Scouts of America maintains scouting partnerships with Islamic groups closely tied to the Muslim Brotherhood, WND has learned.

The Boy Scouts of America welcomes major religions, including Islam. It has incorporated under its banner a group called the National Islamic Committee on Scouting, or NICS, which provides Muslim scouts an opportunity to earn badges or emblems by participating in religious activities.

The NICS scouting emblems include an "Allahu Akbar" emblem, which means "Allah is greatest" in Arabic.

And Finally..... I just had to add this....

Harold Camping misses it more time..

"OOPS... Missed it again!

I was so sure the end of the world was upon us...again... Gotta be out there somewhere!"

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The Jewish Mormon, Glen Beck-He's At It Again!

Glenn Beck, the Jewish Mormon Out to Change the World With His Mormon Centered Truths

Ed Decker

September 2011

Ever since Glenn Beck stepped out from the daily limelight on FOX TV and stopped stunning the world with his amazing insights regarding often hidden secrets of our national history and the underside of our political process; as well as his constant and ever-increasing call to challenge the hidden spiritual depths of the American Christian mindset, I have been waiting for the proverbial "other shoe" to drop. It dropped when he turned his attention to Israel. His trip there was not a casually planned event. It had a purpose that will shock you.

First, understand that I have written and described the Glenn Beck/ Mitt Romney/ Every Mormon Priesthood holder's belief that the Constitution is as sacred as scripture and that the USA is the place where the Garden of Eden was, where Christ visited after his resurrection and where He will return.

This return of Christ will take place after the Constitution and government "hangs by a thread" and is saved by the elders of the Mormon Church. Then, the country will become a theocracy and after His temple is built in Missouri, Christ will return to reign for a thousand years. However, He will let the LDS Prophet and Brethren officiate over his earthly Kingdom of God.

For the details, send for your free copy of the report, The Mormon Plan for America and the Rise of Mitt Romney at

As an aside, Mormon leaders taught in the past that upon Christ's coming to His temple, the Ten Lost tribes will then march from their isolation behind the North Pole and come to the new temple and begin their own temple work. That theory died quietly when Airplanes began flying over the north pole and found no hidden paradise teeming with Jews.

Now, having said all that, I need to share "the rest of the story." Hidden away from the general public, is a secret that Glenn Beck has not dared share with his vast audiences.

It is a secret that reveals the reason Beck feels even more obligated to usher in his new spiritual world view to the Jews than he has been to bring the light of his new spiritual awakening to post-Christian America. The secret is that Glenn Beck is a Jew. Not just any Jew.

You see, Glenn Beck not only became a new Mormon when he was water baptized and had hands laid on his head for the "Gift of the Holy (Mormon) Ghost." His 'gentile' blood was supernaturally and wholly changed during that process to pure and unadulterated Jewish blood.

That's right. In an actual, holy, metaphysical miracle, without a single IV present, his blood and lineage was forever changed. He would later find out, during a prophetic blessing, that he was a Jew of the house of Ephriam.

In one of the most hidden, bizarre and rarely discussed Mormon doctrines, Mormons believe that they are the true Israel, not the Jews in Israel; that their blood is changed from gentile to Jewish blood at baptismal immersion. Beck was just visiting what he considers his 'birthright.' The Jews are interlopers as far as he and the LDS Church believes. In Utah, called Zion by the faithful in word and in hymns of the church, non-Mormons are openly called "Gentiles."

In my own case, after I was converted to the church at age 20 and when I went into the waters of baptism and immediately after, as I had priesthood hands laid upon me to "Receive the Holy Ghost", my "gentile" blood was literally and supernaturally changed to pure Jewish blood. I learned that later in my new church, I would be told during another once-in-a-lifetime blessing, the tribe in which I was now a blood member.

When I became a 'worthy' member, I personally received my "patriarchal blessing" was told that I was of the Israel house of Ephriam. Strange, I thought at the time, since I already was a Jew was born in the Levitical line. I was further perplexed that somehow, God changed my Jewish blood of the Levitical line to that of a lesser bloodline; that of a pompous slacker, Ephriam. When I tried to get an explanation from my Bishop, I was sharply rebuked and warned against looking into "the Mysteries."

Now, understanding the Hand of the Mormon god upon his true Chosen people, the Mormons, the real Jews, you can see the profound importance of Beck's trip to Israel, to set in place the spiritual foundation for the Mormons to take possession of their prophesied, self-ordained birthright, the Holy land of God.

Using his LDS Priesthood powers of authority, with Christ's own Melchizedek priesthood and the "Powers and Principalities" sealed on him the Mormon Temple Ritual, he was there to pray in the demons of Mormonism to begin to pry open the spiritual doors for the Mormon take-over.

The saddest part of this fool's errand was that supposedly godly Christian leaders like Dr. Mike Evans and John Hagee stood at his side, not having a clue that they were praying to a demonic spirit. God have mercy in them. The blind leading the blind into a ditch.

Beck wasn't there by accident. He was there to begin the spiritual preparation for the return of Christ to, first, the LDS Temple prepared for His coming, in Missouri and then to the LDS Temple, actually the Jewish 3rd temple, in Jerusalem.

Wikipedia notes that:

Latter Day Saints believe that the Jews will build the Third Temple and after the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, the Jews will accept Jesus as the Messiah and most Jews will convert to Mormonism. T

Then, it is believed, the Third Temple will become an LDS Temple and will be one of the two most important LDS Temples along with the New Jerusalem Temple that it is believed will be constructed on the Temple Lot in Independence, Missouri, United States.

One of our friends, Mick, emailed me today and asked, "Does this not sound like a connection to the second half of the Tribulation Period when the Temple is taken over by the Anti-Christ and all are forced to worship him and saying that he is God or possibly Jesus Christ."

If you need to study this further and check things out in Mormon documents, I include a quick few of them for you. Want to look even deeper? Google Mormon Jewish Blood and count the pages of references.

The late LDS Apostle and doctrinal teacher, Bruce R. McConkie explained:

But if someone whose blood was wholly of Gentile lineage were converted, he would be adopted into the lineage of Abraham and Jacob and become the house of Israel. (Abraham 2:9-11.) That this action involves a literal change in the convert's blood was plainly taught by the Prophet [Joseph Smith] . . . "while the effect of the Holy Ghost upon a Gentile, is to purge out the old blood, and make him actually of the seed of Abraham. . . ." (Teachings of the prophet Joseph Smith, 149-150) (Mormon Doctrine, 390), (Journal of Discourses, 2:268)

"[A]s the Holy Ghost falls upon one of the literal seed of Abraham, it is calm and serene… while the effect of the Holy Ghost upon a Gentile, is to purge out the old blood, and make him actually of the seed of Abraham. That man that has none of the blood of Abraham (naturally) must have a new creation by the Holy Ghost. In such a case, there may be more of a powerful effect upon the body, and visible to the eye, than upon an Israelite." - Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr., History of the Church, v. 3, p. 380

"[Joseph taught] that the Gentile blood was actually cleansed out of their veins, and the blood of Jacob made to circulate in them; and the revolution and change in the system were so great that it caused the beholder to think they were going into fits."
- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 2, p. 269.

"This first Comforter… has no other effect than pure intelligence. It is more powerful in expanding the mind… of a man who is of the literal seed of Abraham, than one that is a Gentile…as the Holy Ghost falls upon one of the literal seed of Abraham, it is calm and serene…while the effect of the Holy Ghost upon a Gentile, is to purge out the old blood..." Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 149-50

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The Great Secret of The Book of Mormon

Prophets-Who needs them?

"In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe. The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven." Hebrews 1:1-3 NIV

In this dispensation of times our Father has given the exclusive right to our Lord and Savior to be our spokesman between us and the Father. Before the Christ was born of virgin birth, God spoke through prophets contained in the Old Testament to His people.
Now, God continues to speak to us in many ways through the Holy Spirit. No need for a prophet any more. Jesus Christ, who is Lord of all, is in all. He surrounds all things both in the heavens and in the earth. The whole of all existance is in Him and through Him. Our Lord and Savior sits on the right hand of the Father, Christ being one in the Father, is the only one who can speak for us and to us in the Spirit.
His throne is where our hearts are turned. Our salvation is lived through Him.

For Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior is:
1. He is the appointed heir of all things.
2. He is the appointed creator of the worlds.
3. He is the radiance of Gods glory.
4. He is the exact representation of his being.
5. He is the upholder of all things.
6. He provided purefication for sins.
7. He sits at the right hand of the majesty on high.
(Higley's Sunday School Lesson Commentary, R.D Higley, L. R. Ringenberg, John Paul Huffman, The Higley Printing Company, 1956, pg. 169&170)

**Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of the prophets of the Old Testiment. No need for a latter-day prophet now.

The Fig Leaf Apron

The aprons in the LDS Temple endowment symbolize Adam and Eve's attempt to cover themselves with fig leaves. It comes from this section of what is a VERY long ceremony - which represents the LONG ANSWER:

SCENE: In the Garden of Eden.
CONTEXT: The Temptation and Fall of Adam and Eve.

EVE: Adam, here is some of the fruit of that tree. It is delicious to the taste and very desirable.

ADAM: Eve, do you know what fruit that is?

EVE: Yes, it is the fruit of the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.

ADAM: I cannot partake of it. Do you not know that Father commanded us not to partake of the fruit of that tree?

EVE: Do you intend to obey all of Father's commandments?

ADAM: Yes, all of them.

EVE: Do you not remember that Father commanded us to multiply and replenish the earth? I have partaken of this fruit and by so doing shall be cast out, and you will be left a lone man in the garden of Eden.

ADAM: Eve, I see that this must be. I will partake that man may be.

(Adam takes a bite, and Lucifer walks to their side with a look of approval.)

LUCIFER: That is right.

EVE: It is better for us to pass through sorrow that we may know the good from the evil.

EVE: I know thee now. Thou art Lucifer, he who was cast out of Father's presence for rebellion.

LUCIFER: Yes, you are beginning to see already.

ADAM: What is that apron you have on?

(Lucifer draws his cloak up to reveal a black apron.)

LUCIFER: It is an emblem of my power and Priesthoods.

ADAM: I am looking for Father to come down to give us further instructions.

LUCIFER: Oh, you are looking for Father to come down, are you?

(The Gods' voices are suddenly heard in the garden.)

ELOHIM: Jehovah, we promised Adam and Eve that we would visit them and give them further instructions. Come, let us go down.

JEHOVAH: We will go down, Elohim.

ADAM: I hear their voices, they are coming.

LUCIFER: See, you are naked. Take some fig leaves and make you aprons. Father will see your nakedness. Quick! Hide!

ADAM: Come, let us hide.

NARRATOR: Brethren and sisters, put on your aprons.

(The film pauses temporarily and the lights are turned up while the patrons remove their fig-leave aprons from the bundles. All patrons tie the aprons on around their waists. The lights are again turned down and the film resumes. The camera pans down and presents the Gods' perspective as they descend. Adam hides behind foliage.)

ELOHIM: Adam ... Adam! ... Adam!! Where art thou?

ADAM: I heard thy voice and hid myself, because I was naked.

ELOHIM: Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou partaken of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, of which we commanded thee not to partake?

ADAM: The woman thou gavest me, and commanded that she should remain with me, she gave me of the fruit of the tree, and I did eat.

ELOHIM: Eve, what is this that thou hast done?

EVE: The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

ELOHIM: Lucifer, what hast thou been doing here?

LUCIFER: I have been doing that which has been done in other worlds.

ELOHIM: What is that?

LUCIFER: I have been giving some of the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil to them.

ELOHIM: Lucifer, because thou hast done this, thou shalt be cursed above all the beasts of the field. Upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust thou shalt eat all the days of thy life.


Link to sources

And below is a photograph of what these aprons look like. As you can see they are green to mimic fig leaves.

Below you will also find a photograph of what the equivalent 2-sided Masonic apron looks like.


I love you.
The Lord called you home today.
Your in a better place.
I'll miss you.

A Joe Moment

"...that the Saints have so cheerfully hearkened to counsel, and vied with each other in this labor of love, and in the promotion of truth and righteousness. This is as it should be in the Church of Jesus Christ; unity is strength. "How pleasing it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!" Let the Saints of the Most High ever cultivate this principle, and the most glorious blessings must result, not only to them individually, but to the whole Church--The order of the kingdom will be maintained, its officers respected, and its requirements readily and cheerfully obeyed." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Joseph Fielding Smith, Deseret Book Company, 1976,pg.174, bold type added)

Let us define the meanings of the words in BOLD type:

cheerfully - state of mind; a shout for joy
hearkened - give heed
counsel - legal representative
vied - strive for superiority
promotion - an enterprise being promoted
unity - the quantity and interger
[interger - a whole number, not fractional]
cultivate - seek the society of
principle - rules of conduct or ethical behavior
kingdom - any society or classification
maintained - preserve; defend in argument, support
officers - an executive in a society
respected - treat with special consideration or high regard
requirements - demand; order to do something
readily - willingly
obeyed - comply with the command

(Webster Handy College Dictionary)

In other words....

The Saints have a state of mind to give heed to legal representatives, and strive for superiority with each other in this labor of love, within the enterprise being promoted. This is as it should be in the Church of Jesus Christ; the quantity and interger is strength. --How pleasing it is for brethren to dwell together as a whole, not fractional.-- Let the Saints of the Most High ever seek the society of the rules of conduct or ethical behavior, the most glorious blessings must result, not only to them individually, but to the whole Church. The order of this society will be preserved and defended, its executives treated with special consideration and high regard, and the demands willingly and joyfully complied with.

Now, this paragraph that good ole' Joe stated is not a very loving and Christ-like statement. The quote is deep rooted into the cult. God have mercy on those who believe in 'good ole' Joe!'

The Parable Of The Ten Virgins

"For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving into marriage...they knew nothing about what would happen...That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man...Keep must also be ready...The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of...At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom..." (Matthew 24:38-50, 25:1) (italics added)

"Five of them were foolish and five were wise. The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them. The wise, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps. The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they all became drowsy and fell asleep. At midnight the cry rang out: 'Here's the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!' "Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps. The foolish ones said to the wise, "Give us some of your oil; our lamps are going out.' 'No,' they replied, 'there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.' But while they were on their way to buy the oil. the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut. "Later the others also came. 'Sir! Sir!' they said. 'Open the door for us!' "But he replied, 'I tell you the truth, I don't know you.' [You will not be known if you do not prepare.] "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour." (Matthew 25:2-13) (Brackets added)

Not only are those who are in Christ Jesus in need to prepare spiritually, day by day, for the coming of the Son, but also physically and mentally for the tribulations that have already begun.

Take heed all those who are of the flock of the Shepard. The time is near for the gathering of His sheep. Listen, watch, and prepare; for the dreadful time of the earth's birth pains are upon us. It will bring those who are not prepared, misery. It will also bring those who are prepared in Christ a time of looking to the heavens for the coming of the Bridegroom. Have your lamps trimmed, filled with oil, and have extra oil on hand. Prepare so your lamp will not run out while in wait...

The parable of the ten virgins is all about our Christ. The Mormon community has decided to take these important verses of scripture and twist them around for their own selfish desires. Here are a couple of examples:

"Our number one responsibility is to see that we are converted, and then to convert others...Be converted, because no one can endure on borrowed light. You will have to be guided by the light within yourself. If you do not have it, you will not stand." (Harold B. Lee, Stand Ye in Holy Places, pg.954)

"Let me say to you, that many of you will see the time when you will have all the trouble, trial and persecution that you can stand, and plenty of opportunities to show you that you are true to God and his work. This [p.450] Church has before it many close places through which it will have to pass before the work of God is crowned with victory. To meet the difficulties that are coming, it will be necessary for you to have a knowledge of the truth of this work for yourselves. The difficulties will be of such a character that the man or woman who does not possess this personal knowledge or witness will fall. If you have not got the testimony, live right and call upon the Lord and cease not till you obtain it. If you do not you will not stand...Remember these sayings, for many of you will live to see them fulfilled. The time will come when no man nor woman will be able to endure on borrowed light. Each will have to be guided by the light with himself. If you do not have it, how can you stand." (Orson R. Whitney, Life of Heber C. Kimball, p.450)

The above title is linked to a very good web site that shows that the time of our Lord is extremely close. Please take the time to read it.

The Reward Of Perserverance

"Remember those earlier days after you had received the light, when you stood your ground in a great contest in the face of suffering. Sometimes you were publicly exposed to insult and persecution; at other times you stood side by side with those who were so treated. You sympathized with those in prison and joyfully accepted the confiscation of your property, because you knew that you yourselves had better and lasting possessions. So do not throw away your confidence; it will be richly rewarded. You need to persevere so that when you have done the will of God, you will receive what he has promised. For in just a very little while, "He who is coming will come and will not delay. But my righteous one will live by faith. And if he shrinks back, I will not by pleased with him." But we are not of those who shrink back and are destroyed, but of those who believe and are saved." (Hebrews 10:32-39)

I Put My Trust In You Lord

"O Lord, hear my prayer, listen to my cry for mercy; in your faithfulness and righteousness come to my relief. Do not bring your servant into judgment, for no one living is righteous before you. The enemy pursues me, he crushes me to the ground; he makes me dwell in darkness like those long dead. So my spirit grows faint within me; my heart within me is dismayed. I remember the days of long ago; I meditate on all your works and consider what your hands have done. I spread out my hands to you; my soul thirsts for you like a parched land. Answer me quickly, O Lord; my spirit fails. Do not hide your face from me or I will be like those who go down to the pit. Let the morning bring me word of your unfailing love, for I have put my trust in you. Show me the way I should go, for to you I lift up my soul." (Psalm 143:1-8)

God bless all those who search night and day for our Lord and His rest, for in Him I put my trust.

What Mormon Eyes Do You Have?

*Mormons approach their Jesus through the eyes of Mormon leadership instead of approaching their leaders through the eyes of Jesus*

Fourteen Fundamentals

I came across this video the other day, and was so moved by it that I had to share it with everyone. It explains the Fourteen Fundamentals of following the tenets of the Mormon prophet. The comments regarding them are clearly accurate and factual.

Life In The Cross

A Joe Moment

The Prophets Answer to Sundry Questions

"Are the Mormons abolitionists?"
No, unless delivering the people from priestcraft, and the priests from the power of Satan, should be considered abolition. But we do not believe in setting the negroes free."
(Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Deseret Book Co., pgs 119 & 120)

The anti-slavery movement was in full swing when ole' Joe made this quote. The Northern states were helping those who wanted to be free, become so. Among those of the South, most believed it was Biblical to have slaves. Where Joe made this statement, I do not know, however, the state that he designated to be the land of Adam-ondi-Ahman loved their slaves. The Mormon church's official stance on slavery was mixed. Joe, he clearly put the official final word on the subject of the abolitionists within that time period. Joe Smith did not want any human, unless "white and delightfulsome", to be a part of the new movement called Mormonism.
The many 'prophets and quorums', since the time of Joe, have changed their official opinions on the abolishment of slavery many times [about as many as a baby's diaper change]. So, the final word in the present diaper is: Give me your colored human of any race, because I'm hungry for all the money I can get, no matter who is giving it to me...!

The Illness:The Double-Bind

If there could be a diagnosis deemed by the medical world for mind rape, "The Pattern of The Double-Bind in Mormonism" would be the name of that grave illness. An illness that is a complex, hidden cancer that festers unceasingly and is undetectable to almost everyone. It erodes away every healthy mind it comes in contact with, and will cause necrotic cranial fissures that deepen in time.
If there is an arc of life that remains within the cell bodies of what is left of an untouched area of healthy brain tissue, then, and hopefully then, that spark will energize a warning sign or an urgent message that screams out how something inside is terribly wrong.
Marion Stricker, who wrote "The Pattern of The Double-Bind in Mormonism," was able to give identity to a vast corrosive epidemic within the mind of all who believe in the so-called prophet Joe Smith and his cult.
My husband skimmed through the book and commented to me about how this particular book described me. He said it fits me to a "T". It's a long road to reality and truth (especially if you never had them in the first place). I've spent the majority of the past fifteen years fixing the problem. Some of the symptoms creep in now and again and my husband is quick to point that fact out. So, I strongly urge everyone to spend the money and get the book. It is a must read for anyone who is in Mormonism (and out) to understand why Mormonism is so hard to brake free from and heal (move) on with life in a mature way.
Leaning on the Lord is the cure for this disease. He will be your constant companion and guide. "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest." (Matthew 11:28 NIV).

A Joe Moment

God an Exalted Man (???)

"God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! That is the great secret." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Deseret Book Company, pg. 345)

Nowhere in the Bible does it say that God is or was an exalted man!
This is what the Bible has to say:
"God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth." (John 4:24)

"This is what the Lord says-Israels King and Redeemer, the Lord Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God." (Isaiah 44:6)

"Do not tremble, do not be afraid. Did I not proclaim this and foretell it long ago? You are my witnesses. Is there any God besides me? No, there is no other Rock; I know not one." (Isaiah 44:8)

"Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me." (Isaiah 43:10)

"...for I am God, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45:22)

"The Lord is the true God; he is the living God, the eternal King." (Jeremiah 10:10)

"You were shown these things [God speaking out of fire, taking one nation out of another nation, testings, miraculous signs, wonders,...] so that you might know that the Lord is God: besides him there is no other." (Deuteronomy 4:35, brackets added)

Jesus Christ is our deity.
"For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, and you have been given fullness in Christ, who is the head over every power and authority." (Colossians 2:9&10)

A Joe Moment

Excerpts from a Sermon by President Joseph Smith

"Christ was the head of the Church, the chief corner stone, the spiritual rock upon which the church was built,..."
( Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Deseret Book, pg. 318)

Was...., I think not. More like, IS!!!!!!

"Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever." (Hebrews 13:8)
"...Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior." (Ephesians 5:12)
"Trust in the Lord forever, for the Lord, the Lord, is the Rock eternal." (Isaiah 26:4)
There are many more Bible references that point to our Lord who IS our chief cornerstone and always will be throughout eternity. Christ is not past tense.
*Ps 118:22
*Mt 21:42
*Mk 12:10
*Ac 4:11
*1 Peter 2:4
*Eph 2:19-21
*Isiah 17:10
*And so many more....

Mormon Women, Prozac, and Therapy

*The title above is linked to a report put out by Kent Ponder, Ph.D. in 2003. Please click on the link to read the full story. Anyone who needs to know the truth about how damaging Mormonism is, take the time to read it.

When I was a Mormon I experienced the depression that went along with the duties of being an LDS woman. I was on Prozac myself, I had the therapy, both Mormon therapists and non-Mormon therapists. Nothing worked or helped. I became even more depressed as time went on.

The paper mentioned above, hits the subject on the the head. It doesn't matter if a woman is born and raised in the church, or converted, the stress of perfect conformity is crushing for both. My life revolved around those who were in "authority." Because of this, my life became a mess and I didn't have the skills to mentally understand how I could escape this cult that had done so much damage. Just like my teenage years at home with my parents, I didn't know anything about self preservation or truth. Both of which were not in my personal mental dictionary at the time.

I encourage all to read this report that is in the link, especially those who are suffering for perfection.

Feelings, Nothing More Than Feelings

Feelings are a peculiar set of emotions that have a unique way of transforming all thoughts into action, reaction or inaction. Most often than not, feelings are subjective or personal, and most of what we believe is a result of feelings. The outcome from any information taken in is controlled solely by the thought process in the brain. There is not one single feeling that gives an automatic response, good or bad, and is uncontrollable.
All feelings can be easily seduced and misled by preying spirits that seek out the destruction of our spirits. Those evil spirits, as well as Satan, who himself can masquerade as an angel of light, deceives unwary people into feeling that something is truth when it's a lie.

To be preoccupied with our personal feelings is selfish, and is dangerously wrong.

"Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world." (1 John 4:1)

When it comes to the Book of Mormon, people are told to 'feel' the truthfulness of it. If that 'feeling' didn't come, those people are admonished to pray again, only this time, pray harder "with a sincere heart" (Moroni 10:4), and you will get the correct outcome, or feeling. How are Mormons instructed to tell themselves about the 'truthfulness' of their feelings? "The burning in the bosom" if it is true and "A stupor of thought" if it is false. I don't remember how many times, when I was a Mormon stake missionary that I used those two phrases, burning in the bosom and stupor of thought, on those who were searching for the truth. I was wrong in doing that.

As a Christian, we are to "test" the spirits to "prove" all things.

Here is a list of Bible references to help with knowing the truthfulness of a spirit or a prophet is from God:
*1 John 4:1
*1 Timothy 6:3-4
*2 Corinthians 13:5
*Revelation 2:2
*1 Thessalonians 5:21
*1 Corinthians 15:1-8
*Galatians 1:6-8
*2 Corinthians 11:4
*Jeremiah 23:16
*Deuteronomy 13:1-5
*Deuteronomy 18:22
*Acts 17:11

It is not Biblical to pray about the Book of Mormon as the Mormons teach you to do. If you gained a testimony about the Book of Mormon, you should sit down, grab a Bible and read the scripture references above to know if you have been deceived by preying spirits.

"Why should subjective feelings be suspected? Because we are sinful creatures and can be swayed by our emotions and sinful desires:
* "The heart of man is desperately wicked and cannot be trusted." (Jeremiah 17:9)
* "There is a way that seems right to man, but the end is death." (Proverbs 14:12)"

"The peril is real.To become preoccupied with inner feelings is dangerous and wrong in this age in which we are called to "walk by faith, not by sight." (Life In The Son, Robert Shank, Westcott Publishers, 1982, pg. 304)

A Joe Moment

False Reports

"What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world."

(Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 270)

A Joe Moment

The Immortal Spirit

"...I might with boldness proclaim from the house-tops that God never had the power to create the spirit of man at all. God himself could not create himself."

(Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith,Deseret Book Co., pg 354)

The Church Newspaper

I thought I'd thumb through a thin stack of old LDS church newspapers I got from my grandmother back in 2003. I've mentioned these papers before, however, I thought I'd point out a few things I found in one of them tonight.

"Word and Will," is the topic of discussion on the back side of the 16 AUG 2003 issue. Here are three quotes taken from this article:
"Wise Church members keep their eyes trained on the course set by the prophets and apostles under inspiration from Christ." (italics added)
"Consistent with the three fold mission of the Church, we perfect one another and bring others, living and dead, to Christ." (italics added)
"The revelation prescribed principles of conduct to ensure spirituality and worthiness for the continued guidance of the Holy Spirit." (italics added)

Now, these points may seem trivial, yet, in the large picture of things, the words in italics give off the subtle hints of the mind control that the Mormon authorities use to manipulate the people in their 'faith.'

*Just a side note: These newspapers, like their (LDS) newspaper website, only very briefly speak of Jesus Christ, and even then, you would need a magnifying glass to find Him... There is no Christ centered discussion in the papers, just church, good works, pioneer day, temples, more church, and the tabernacle choir. There isn't even a picture in my newspapers of Jesus Christ, but they will plaster the angel moroni on its pages.

A Joe Moment

God an Exalted Man

"God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!...I say, if you were to see him today, you would see him like a man in form - like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a is necessary we should understand the character and being of God and how he came to be so; for I am going to tell you how God came to be God. We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see...he was once a man like us; yea, that God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ himself did; and I will show it from the Bible.

(Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Deseret Book, 1989, pgs, 345 & 346)

Saints Alive Special Report-Emergent Mormonism

Special Report March 2011

Ed Decker

Saints Alive In Jesus

P.O. Box 1347

Issaquah WA 98027

A Note from Ed

Dear Friends, It is hard to believe that we have mailed many hundreds of issues of our newsletters and other material to well over a quarter of a million specific addresses. The thing that surprised me is the large number of you who have been with us for several decades, at least, if not three decades. When I call you our "faithful Friends", I really mean it.

We have also had several million people visit our website and they have downloaded around a million pages of information from close to 100 countries. Massive impact!

This e-Newsletter has already reached hundreds of thousands of people since we began it over 5 years ago.

I started this ministry in January of 1977, 34 years ago and during those 34 years, we have always been the edge of pushing past our resources and that is as true this month as it was 25 years ago.

My vision, burden, calling, or my zeal for this ministry has been the daily core of my life since I asked for my excommunication trial in 1976. The only thing on earth that has had precedent over it has been the Lord and my family. Today, Carol, Jason, Josh and Joscelyn work with me to keep up with the many demands.

Since we began, ever expanding computer technology, the internet and all the social networking systems have increased our world-wide outreach by many thousands-fold.

In the old days, I would travel for weeks, speaking at churches every night, travelling every day and perhaps reach ten thousand people on a trip.

Today, I can write an article, post it on our website and 4 or 5 other sites like Facebook, and tens of thousands of people see it in an hour. .

Back when I did live radio and TV and sent out audio program tapes to each station each week I was reaching thousands. Now, many of the national programs I guest on today reach hundreds of cities and millions of listeners. I will also begin doing a web-radio program as soon as I can figure out the mechanics of it.

For those of you who have been with us for so long, thank you for sticking with us over these years. You have no idea how blessed we feel.

And as always, I implore you to keep supporting us with your prayers and your gifts. One PayPal gift from each of you for $10 or $20 would put this work in the solid black for many months to come. Please pray about standing with us. Your brother in Christ, Ed Decker

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The Emergent Mormon Church

Ed Decker

I have been quietly spending a great deal of time lately on 'unofficial' Mormon websites, forums and blog sites, and communicating with so many Mormons, [under a pseudonym, obviously].

I didn't do this to argue or debate. I wanted to listen, to feel the pulse of regular Mormon people.

What I have found is an astonishing discovery of something I have already suspected for some time.

The LDS Brethren have been trying to align themselves with general Christianity for the last decade or so. It was never clearer than when Mitt Romney ran for President.

It rose up to a crashing crescendo when Glenn Beck gathered up groups of Christian leaders and put on his "We are All One' party at the Lincoln Memorial on the National Mall.

Mormonism can never align itself with Orthodox, biblically based Christianity for many reasons, yet the Mormon people want to be known as true Christians.

What these Mormons are saying on their forums, blogs and FB pages is that most of them generally pick and choose what they want to be the focus of their 'religious' experience in the Church.

They just junk the parts that make them feel uncomfortable. Sort of what American Catholics and ala-carte' Christians have been doing for years?

Now, this is true across the general population within the LDS church. It isn't a segment of the members; it is widespread among them.

On the part of the leadership, we see another anomaly. Rarely, if ever, are the deviant doctrines preached from the pulpits anymore.

The preaching is a feel good set of messages meant to make the members and their families happy to be there and smiling when they leave.

We talk to recent converts about some of these strange doctrines and they look at us like we are crazy. They haven't been taught about their Mother in Heaven, or the black skin curse, or Jesus and Lucifer being brothers, as examples.

The LDS Church leadership has recently made great strides in cuddling up to the Christian body, but it isn't where you would think, understanding the conservative DNA of Mormonism.

They are copying and using the same methods and techniques as the Seeker Friendly and Emergent Church groups and finding that they have strong compatibilities.

They also see that the leaders of these groups accept them at smiley face value and would never think to challenge them doctrinally. A Tinker Bell and Peter Pan relationship.

A Mormon could go to any one of such a church type and be openly welcomed, accepted as a Mormon 'believer' and be extremely comfortable... while never challenged spiritually. And leave church feeling really good.

Except for the weekly Wonder Bread and Water Sacrament, the Mormon can feel right at any Seeker Friendly or Emergent church gathering.

One recent forum thread was about which non-LDS churches they felt comfortable attending.

This is what one of our Board members, Eric Barger has to say about the Emergent Church. Look at the Emergent Mormonism parallels here: The Errors of the Emergent Church

I know many Emergent sympathizers would object and say that I am generalizing. However, that simply is not the case. Even without much space to elaborate in this article, and even as difficult as "Emergent Speak" can be to decipher, once one boils it down, just a partial outline of Emergent philosophies indicates glaring flaws.

To Emergents, Christianity is:

* Experience over Reason
* Images over Words

* Spirituality over Doctrine

* Subjective Feelings over Absolute Truth

* Earthly Justice over Salvation

* Social Action over Eternity

Mormons are 100% in line with the first four characteristics and with a little tweaking, can accept the last two, as well. They also have their own Mormon-Speak vocabulary.

When then President Gordon B. Hinckley was interviewed by Larry King in 2004, he was asked what happens when a person dies.

Here he had the opportunity to speak as a true prophet and declare the judgment and the three degrees of Glory. Instead, God's mouthpiece for the earth just didn't know.

KING: What happens when you die?

HINCKLEY: When you die? Well, I'm not fully conversant with that. I haven't passed through that yet.

Sort of reminded me of a recent interview on the Piers Morgan Tonight program that replaced Larry King Live. I do like the more direct approach to issues that Piers has, compared to the King approach.

Piers was interviewing Joel Osteen, Pastor of one of the largest Seeker Friendly Churches in America. Piers worked hard to get him to reluctantly admit that homosexuality was a sin, according to the Bible, but could not get him to define what makes a person saved and going to heaven. Pastor Osteen did not know or would not say who was going to heaven and how to get there.

Millions of people were watching and the pastor of tens of thousands of Christian church members could not give the basic elements of Salvation, lest someone be offended. This is the kind of Christianity the Mormon leaders are becoming kissing cousins to, and it will get far worse as time goes on and no one speaks out about it.

One LDS Blogger wrote that the church was suffering from a case of spiritual schizophrenia or multiple personality disorder.

The Dictionary definitions of these two are,

First schizophrenia: Any of a group of psychotic disorders usually characterized by withdrawal from reality, illogical patterns of thinking, delusions, and hallucinations, and accompanied in varying degrees by other emotional, behavioral, or intellectual disturbances

And Second, multiple personality disorder: A situation, state of mind, in which widely conflicting opinions, ideas, or practices coexist, often resulting in indecision, vacillation, wavering, etc.

While one can smile and see the sad truth in what the blogger wrote, The Emergent and Seeker Friendly Churches suffer the same maladies and they are the Christianity the Mormons are now seeking fellowship with and getting results.

Watch and be warned. The LDS Church will soon become another branch of shattered Christianity.

Ed Decker

Saints alive in Jesus

P.O. Box 1347

Issaquah WA 98028

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I spent a lot of time deciding if I should write this blog or not. I'm not a great writer and I'm not going to pretend to be. I need to share what I have learned and I might not make some people happy with what I am saying. This blog is a way for me to release the thoughts and feelings that come with knowing I grew up in the wrong religion. A healing process if you will.

How To Read This Blog

Please start with the month of February 2007 and read backwards. This is the most effective way to understand, in order, why I say what I do.

Handmaidens Creed

1.I believe in God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit as one God without beginning or end.
2.I believe the Bible to be the Holy Inspired word of God with full truth and righteousness. No other writing is.
3.I believe that the work of the Lord comes first. Before any temporal thing or person.
4.I believe that grace is a gift and Christ gives that gift freely to all who believe.
5.I believe that the beauty of a woman is contained inside of her and not by what she looks like on the outside.
6.I believe that marriage is sacred and represents the Godhead on earth; two are one just as three are one.
7.I believe that love is more powerful than any other power. Remember, God is love.
8.I believe that tithing is not a part of God's new covenant, free will offerings are. And that doesn't mean just money.
9.I believe that the Aaronic, Levitical, and Melchizedek priesthoods are abolished and Christs Holy Priesthood whom Christ is the "Great High Priest" is eternal.
10.I believe that every believer is a priest in the "Priesthood of Believers".
11.I believe that when two are one, nobody is to separate the one.
12.I believe that Christ is the only way to heaven.
13.I believe that our bodies are temples, not man made buildings.
14.I believe that liars make fools out of others and the liar hates the fool.
15.I believe that all believers are in authority to preach the gospel.
16.I believe that the word 'organization' to describe Christs body is evil and has no place with God.
17.I believe the Americas are not the land of Zion and Christ will return to His origonal land-Israel in the Middle East.
18.I believe that God has set out correct ways of worshiping Him, not man.
19.I believe in holding to the truths of the Bible and not mans understanding of it.
20.I believe that the world is full of evil and Satan can easily gain control over the minds of those who do not profess Christ of the Bible to be their only Messiah.
21.I believe that Saints are those who know the real Savior, Jesus Christ, of whom the Bible speaks of; not the jesus of a cult.