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A Joe Moment

"I must teach the Elders, and they should teach you. God made Aaron to be the mouthpiece for the children of Israel, and He will make me be god to you in His stead, and the Elders to be mouth for me; and if you don't like it, you must lump it." (Teachings of The Prophet Joseph Smith, Joseph Fielding Smith, Deseret Book Company, 1976, pg. 363)

**All Mormons must obey the Teachings of Joe Smith, and even if a Mormon is elected President of the United States, he or she must follow the dictates of the head of this organization; their prophet, Thomas S. Monson...

A Joe Moment

"...that the Saints have so cheerfully hearkened to counsel, and vied with each other in this labor of love, and in the promotion of truth and righteousness. This is as it should be in the Church of Jesus Christ; unity is strength. "How pleasing it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!" Let the Saints of the Most High ever cultivate this principle, and the most glorious blessings must result, not only to them individually, but to the whole Church--The order of the kingdom will be maintained, its officers respected, and its requirements readily and cheerfully obeyed." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Joseph Fielding Smith, Deseret Book Company, 1976,pg.174, bold type added)

Let us define the meanings of the words in BOLD type:

cheerfully - state of mind; a shout for joy
hearkened - give heed
counsel - legal representative
vied - strive for superiority
promotion - an enterprise being promoted
unity - the quantity and interger
[interger - a whole number, not fractional]
cultivate - seek the society of
principle - rules of conduct or ethical behavior
kingdom - any society or classification
maintained - preserve; defend in argument, support
officers - an executive in a society
respected - treat with special consideration or high regard
requirements - demand; order to do something
readily - willingly
obeyed - comply with the command

(Webster Handy College Dictionary)

In other words....

The Saints have a state of mind to give heed to legal representatives, and strive for superiority with each other in this labor of love, within the enterprise being promoted. This is as it should be in the Church of Jesus Christ; the quantity and interger is strength. --How pleasing it is for brethren to dwell together as a whole, not fractional.-- Let the Saints of the Most High ever seek the society of the rules of conduct or ethical behavior, the most glorious blessings must result, not only to them individually, but to the whole Church. The order of this society will be preserved and defended, its executives treated with special consideration and high regard, and the demands willingly and joyfully complied with.

Now, this paragraph that good ole' Joe stated is not a very loving and Christ-like statement. The quote is deep rooted into the cult. God have mercy on those who believe in 'good ole' Joe!'

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The Prophets Answer to Sundry Questions

"Are the Mormons abolitionists?"
No, unless delivering the people from priestcraft, and the priests from the power of Satan, should be considered abolition. But we do not believe in setting the negroes free."
(Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Deseret Book Co., pgs 119 & 120)


The anti-slavery movement was in full swing when ole' Joe made this quote. The Northern states were helping those who wanted to be free, become so. Among those of the South, most believed it was Biblical to have slaves. Where Joe made this statement, I do not know, however, the state that he designated to be the land of Adam-ondi-Ahman loved their slaves. The Mormon church's official stance on slavery was mixed. Joe, he clearly put the official final word on the subject of the abolitionists within that time period. Joe Smith did not want any human, unless "white and delightfulsome", to be a part of the new movement called Mormonism.
The many 'prophets and quorums', since the time of Joe, have changed their official opinions on the abolishment of slavery many times [about as many as a baby's diaper change]. So, the final word in the present diaper is: Give me your colored human of any race, because I'm hungry for all the money I can get, no matter who is giving it to me...!

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God an Exalted Man (???)

"God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! That is the great secret." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Deseret Book Company, pg. 345)

Nowhere in the Bible does it say that God is or was an exalted man!
This is what the Bible has to say:
"God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth." (John 4:24)

"This is what the Lord says-Israels King and Redeemer, the Lord Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God." (Isaiah 44:6)

"Do not tremble, do not be afraid. Did I not proclaim this and foretell it long ago? You are my witnesses. Is there any God besides me? No, there is no other Rock; I know not one." (Isaiah 44:8)

"Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me." (Isaiah 43:10)

"...for I am God, and there is no other." (Isaiah 45:22)

"The Lord is the true God; he is the living God, the eternal King." (Jeremiah 10:10)

"You were shown these things [God speaking out of fire, taking one nation out of another nation, testings, miraculous signs, wonders,...] so that you might know that the Lord is God: besides him there is no other." (Deuteronomy 4:35, brackets added)

Jesus Christ is our deity.
"For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, and you have been given fullness in Christ, who is the head over every power and authority." (Colossians 2:9&10)

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Excerpts from a Sermon by President Joseph Smith

"Christ was the head of the Church, the chief corner stone, the spiritual rock upon which the church was built,..."
( Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Deseret Book, pg. 318)

Was...., I think not. More like, IS!!!!!!

"Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever." (Hebrews 13:8)
"...Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior." (Ephesians 5:12)
"Trust in the Lord forever, for the Lord, the Lord, is the Rock eternal." (Isaiah 26:4)
There are many more Bible references that point to our Lord who IS our chief cornerstone and always will be throughout eternity. Christ is not past tense.
*Ps 118:22
*Mt 21:42
*Mk 12:10
*Ac 4:11
*1 Peter 2:4
*Eph 2:19-21
*Isiah 17:10
*And so many more....

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False Reports

"What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world."

(Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 270)

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The Immortal Spirit

"...I might with boldness proclaim from the house-tops that God never had the power to create the spirit of man at all. God himself could not create himself."

(Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith,Deseret Book Co., pg 354)

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God an Exalted Man

"God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!...I say, if you were to see him today, you would see him like a man in form - like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a man...it is necessary we should understand the character and being of God and how he came to be so; for I am going to tell you how God came to be God. We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see...he was once a man like us; yea, that God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ himself did; and I will show it from the Bible.

(Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Deseret Book, 1989, pgs, 345 & 346)

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The Prophet's Answer to Sundry Questions

Q. "Will everybody be damned, but Mormons?"

A. "Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness."

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"As for other governments and religions, according to Joseph Smith, they "must eventually be destroyed from the earth.""

(One Nation Under Gods, Richard, Abanes, Four Walls Eight Windows, 2002, Introduction xx & xxi, notes #17: Joseph Smith, statement of December 30, 1842, HC (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Company, 1976/1980), vol. 5, 212, pg. 479)

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The Prophet's Characterization of Himself

"... I will become a smooth and polished shaft in the quiver of the Almighty, who will give me dominion over all..."


Veil of Stupidity-A Joe Moment

"For some length of time I have been carefully viewing the state of things, as it now appears, throughout our Christian land; and have looked at it with feelings of the most painful anxiety. While upon one hand I behold the manifest withdrawal of God's Holy Spirit, and the veil of stupidity which seems to be drawn over the hearts of the people...." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Deseret Books, Joseph F. Smith, 1989, pg. 13)

Well, there it is, Joseph Smith thinks that the Christian heart is stupid.

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I spent a lot of time deciding if I should write this blog or not. I'm not a great writer and I'm not going to pretend to be. I need to share what I have learned and I might not make some people happy with what I am saying. This blog is a way for me to release the thoughts and feelings that come with knowing I grew up in the wrong religion. A healing process if you will.

How To Read This Blog

Please start with the month of February 2007 and read backwards. This is the most effective way to understand, in order, why I say what I do.

Handmaidens Creed

1.I believe in God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit as one God without beginning or end.
2.I believe the Bible to be the Holy Inspired word of God with full truth and righteousness. No other writing is.
3.I believe that the work of the Lord comes first. Before any temporal thing or person.
4.I believe that grace is a gift and Christ gives that gift freely to all who believe.
5.I believe that the beauty of a woman is contained inside of her and not by what she looks like on the outside.
6.I believe that marriage is sacred and represents the Godhead on earth; two are one just as three are one.
7.I believe that love is more powerful than any other power. Remember, God is love.
8.I believe that tithing is not a part of God's new covenant, free will offerings are. And that doesn't mean just money.
9.I believe that the Aaronic, Levitical, and Melchizedek priesthoods are abolished and Christs Holy Priesthood whom Christ is the "Great High Priest" is eternal.
10.I believe that every believer is a priest in the "Priesthood of Believers".
11.I believe that when two are one, nobody is to separate the one.
12.I believe that Christ is the only way to heaven.
13.I believe that our bodies are temples, not man made buildings.
14.I believe that liars make fools out of others and the liar hates the fool.
15.I believe that all believers are in authority to preach the gospel.
16.I believe that the word 'organization' to describe Christs body is evil and has no place with God.
17.I believe the Americas are not the land of Zion and Christ will return to His origonal land-Israel in the Middle East.
18.I believe that God has set out correct ways of worshiping Him, not man.
19.I believe in holding to the truths of the Bible and not mans understanding of it.
20.I believe that the world is full of evil and Satan can easily gain control over the minds of those who do not profess Christ of the Bible to be their only Messiah.
21.I believe that Saints are those who know the real Savior, Jesus Christ, of whom the Bible speaks of; not the jesus of a cult.